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		<title>By: rediulous pointer outer</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>rediulous pointer outer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple should just delist off the American exchanges and go overseas to avoide this nonsense. Then they wouldn&#039;t have to be held to this silly legislation, which led to a 300% increase in companies delisting from American exchanges (Amex, Nasdaq, NYSE) in year after SOX passed. Then we could get our upgrades for free, as we deserve.

Like most legislation coming out of Washington these days, nothing that&#039;s broken gets fixed, and other more serious problems are created and allowed to fester. SOX was passed in the aftermath of the dot-com bubble and corporate scandals such as Enron and WorldCom. Now, we can look back and see how effective this legislation was at slowing the current stable of problems created by the funny-money accounting and business practices at   Freddie-Mac, Fannie-Mae, Lehman Bro&#039;s, Washington Mutual, Wachovia, and others. 

But,

Apple, being the good corporate citizen that it is, wants to do everything &quot;by the book&quot; and charge for upgrades that enable &quot;extra&quot; functionality not previously found in their devices. Of course, hardware chips such as bluetooth adapters work wonderfully well *without* software to drive them. So this thinking is right on target.

I guess the Apple CFO sees the absolute necessity of accounting for hardware and software separatel. After all, hardware and software operate independently, and neither one depends on the other. Case in point: my laptop&#039;s Broadcom bluetooth adapter, in the absence of device drivers, works wonderfully as a space filler to direct the cooling fan&#039;s airflow around my WiFi radio, which did come with device drivers. So, the drivers are *extra* functionality which must be accounted for, and paid for separately, lest some bean counter over at the Department of Justice notices such an omission in Apple&#039;s accounting and, heaven forbid, file criminal charges for such an ommission. 

So, to avoid all that let&#039;s all pay our $$$ and just shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple should just delist off the American exchanges and go overseas to avoide this nonsense. Then they wouldn&#8217;t have to be held to this silly legislation, which led to a 300% increase in companies delisting from American exchanges (Amex, Nasdaq, NYSE) in year after SOX passed. Then we could get our upgrades for free, as we deserve.</p>
<p>Like most legislation coming out of Washington these days, nothing that&#8217;s broken gets fixed, and other more serious problems are created and allowed to fester. SOX was passed in the aftermath of the dot-com bubble and corporate scandals such as Enron and WorldCom. Now, we can look back and see how effective this legislation was at slowing the current stable of problems created by the funny-money accounting and business practices at   Freddie-Mac, Fannie-Mae, Lehman Bro&#8217;s, Washington Mutual, Wachovia, and others. </p>
<p>But,</p>
<p>Apple, being the good corporate citizen that it is, wants to do everything &#8220;by the book&#8221; and charge for upgrades that enable &#8220;extra&#8221; functionality not previously found in their devices. Of course, hardware chips such as bluetooth adapters work wonderfully well *without* software to drive them. So this thinking is right on target.</p>
<p>I guess the Apple CFO sees the absolute necessity of accounting for hardware and software separatel. After all, hardware and software operate independently, and neither one depends on the other. Case in point: my laptop&#8217;s Broadcom bluetooth adapter, in the absence of device drivers, works wonderfully as a space filler to direct the cooling fan&#8217;s airflow around my WiFi radio, which did come with device drivers. So, the drivers are *extra* functionality which must be accounted for, and paid for separately, lest some bean counter over at the Department of Justice notices such an omission in Apple&#8217;s accounting and, heaven forbid, file criminal charges for such an ommission. </p>
<p>So, to avoid all that let&#8217;s all pay our $$$ and just shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mistretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mistretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a direct quote from SOX for you, nor do I claim to be an accountant, but from the Wall Street Journal:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If Apple had given the enhancement away free, Apple’s auditors could have required it to restate revenue for that period and could possibly have required Apple to start in the future to defer all the revenue from computer sales until all such enhancements are shipped, this person said. That would have had a devastating impact on Apple.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They had to choose between charging a fee for the upgrade, or reopening their books and possibly taking a cut of future product&#039;s revenue.

Take a look at this article. It&#039;s regarding the $1.99 802.11n enabler, but much of the same information is relevant:

http://www.macalope.com/2007/02/13/must-the-macalope-do-everything/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a direct quote from SOX for you, nor do I claim to be an accountant, but from the Wall Street Journal:</p>
<blockquote><p>If Apple had given the enhancement away free, Apple’s auditors could have required it to restate revenue for that period and could possibly have required Apple to start in the future to defer all the revenue from computer sales until all such enhancements are shipped, this person said. That would have had a devastating impact on Apple.
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<p>They had to choose between charging a fee for the upgrade, or reopening their books and possibly taking a cut of future product&#8217;s revenue.</p>
<p>Take a look at this article. It&#8217;s regarding the $1.99 802.11n enabler, but much of the same information is relevant:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.macalope.com/2007/02/13/must-the-macalope-do-everything/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macalope.com/2007/02/13/must-the-macalope-do-everything/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jku</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>jku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please quote the relevant part of SOX or at least say which section you refer to, because I&#039;m not buying this argument at all? SOX just doesn&#039;t deal with stuff like this. Michael, please back your claim with some references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please quote the relevant part of SOX or at least say which section you refer to, because I&#8217;m not buying this argument at all? SOX just doesn&#8217;t deal with stuff like this. Michael, please back your claim with some references.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the Apple *had* to charge is just a wonderful story made up why they charge for the upgrade.  

The story is they figured out the *could* charge, and would find a way to make people charge, then you work backwards from their and give a reason for why you charge that doesn&#039;t make you look greedy to the point of pissing off their customers.

So, they have something you want.  Great.  They&#039;ll sell it to you. If you don&#039;t want to charge, you can just not charge (forget S/O -- when the executives served themselves with options, they had much more liberal interpretations, including lying, stealing and backdating...).  Or charge $.01.  As for consistency of the price.  Give me a break.  I can cook up a many othe rreasons whyt $20.  It corresponds to a popular bill.  People will part from $20 for other, more frivolous stuff. $20 is a nice round number.   $20 looks good in the balance sheet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the Apple *had* to charge is just a wonderful story made up why they charge for the upgrade.  </p>
<p>The story is they figured out the *could* charge, and would find a way to make people charge, then you work backwards from their and give a reason for why you charge that doesn&#8217;t make you look greedy to the point of pissing off their customers.</p>
<p>So, they have something you want.  Great.  They&#8217;ll sell it to you. If you don&#8217;t want to charge, you can just not charge (forget S/O &#8212; when the executives served themselves with options, they had much more liberal interpretations, including lying, stealing and backdating&#8230;).  Or charge $.01.  As for consistency of the price.  Give me a break.  I can cook up a many othe rreasons whyt $20.  It corresponds to a popular bill.  People will part from $20 for other, more frivolous stuff. $20 is a nice round number.   $20 looks good in the balance sheet.</p>
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		<title>By: OS11</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>OS11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vin

Sony, Nintendo and others aren&#039;t American firms so the law does not apply.

and Microsoft rarely adds &quot;functionality&quot; to its products, so they can skirt the new law.

all these updates are free on torrents so it&#039;s really not a big issue once you know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vin</p>
<p>Sony, Nintendo and others aren&#8217;t American firms so the law does not apply.</p>
<p>and Microsoft rarely adds &#8220;functionality&#8221; to its products, so they can skirt the new law.</p>
<p>all these updates are free on torrents so it&#8217;s really not a big issue once you know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Vin</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>Vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Michael,

I am just not buying it. For example Sony and MS will both be introducing huge upgrades to their respective gaming platforms (PS3 and Xbox360) in the coming months. These are not just cosmetic changes they are complete revamps of the entire systems (and this is not the first time they have done it either) yet neither will be charging for it. The two cited examples are Xbox Experience and Playstation Home. 

I do realise it&#039;s a case of cover your ass for Apple but if they really did have their hands tied by Sarbanes-Oxley (which I don&#039;t believe to be the case) they could have done it at a nominal cost to the consumer. I think it&#039;s a cynical attempt to justify milking unwary customers for cash. 

My recommendation for everybody is to give Apple the finger and download the widely available restore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Michael,</p>
<p>I am just not buying it. For example Sony and MS will both be introducing huge upgrades to their respective gaming platforms (PS3 and Xbox360) in the coming months. These are not just cosmetic changes they are complete revamps of the entire systems (and this is not the first time they have done it either) yet neither will be charging for it. The two cited examples are Xbox Experience and Playstation Home. </p>
<p>I do realise it&#8217;s a case of cover your ass for Apple but if they really did have their hands tied by Sarbanes-Oxley (which I don&#8217;t believe to be the case) they could have done it at a nominal cost to the consumer. I think it&#8217;s a cynical attempt to justify milking unwary customers for cash. </p>
<p>My recommendation for everybody is to give Apple the finger and download the widely available restore.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mistretta</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mistretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vin: Most of the other iPod Touch updates contained bug fixes and no new significant features. The 1.1.3 upgrade announced at Macworld cost $20 for iPod Touch owners. Apple significantly reduced the cost of the iPhone 2.0 upgrade to only $10.

Up until recently, Apple was under investigation by the SEC, and wanted to be as careful as possible with their accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vin: Most of the other iPod Touch updates contained bug fixes and no new significant features. The 1.1.3 upgrade announced at Macworld cost $20 for iPod Touch owners. Apple significantly reduced the cost of the iPhone 2.0 upgrade to only $10.</p>
<p>Up until recently, Apple was under investigation by the SEC, and wanted to be as careful as possible with their accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: Vin</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting the &#039;horrible little law called Sarbanes-Oxley, that legally doesn’t allow you to add features to products that you have already been paid for&#039; as an excuse for the obvious cash-in by Apple on this is a little hard to swallow.
If this really was the reason then can someone please explain how Apple managed their other iPod touch firmware upgrades?

If this horrible little law did apply then can someone care to explain to me why Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft and many others been breaking the law by giving us all free firmware updates for our various devices. PSP, Wii, PS3, Xbox, Xbox360, etc etc.

I would hate to think I was complicit in breaking the law by accepting these updates without paying for them. Shudder the thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting the &#8216;horrible little law called Sarbanes-Oxley, that legally doesn’t allow you to add features to products that you have already been paid for&#8217; as an excuse for the obvious cash-in by Apple on this is a little hard to swallow.<br />
If this really was the reason then can someone please explain how Apple managed their other iPod touch firmware upgrades?</p>
<p>If this horrible little law did apply then can someone care to explain to me why Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft and many others been breaking the law by giving us all free firmware updates for our various devices. PSP, Wii, PS3, Xbox, Xbox360, etc etc.</p>
<p>I would hate to think I was complicit in breaking the law by accepting these updates without paying for them. Shudder the thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-636</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the ipod touch would be able to conect with Nike  system, is not fair that you have to have tour ipod touch and ipod nano also if you want to use it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the ipod touch would be able to conect with Nike  system, is not fair that you have to have tour ipod touch and ipod nano also if you want to use it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my new ipod. wish it was bigger than 16gb though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my new ipod. wish it was bigger than 16gb though.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mistretta</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mistretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t listen through flash player, as there is not Flash on the iPhone or iPod Touch. But, if you have a link to the direct MP3 or AAC file on the Internet, Safari — the web browser on the iPod Touch and iPhone — will play it through QuickTime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t listen through flash player, as there is not Flash on the iPhone or iPod Touch. But, if you have a link to the direct MP3 or AAC file on the Internet, Safari — the web browser on the iPod Touch and iPhone — will play it through QuickTime.</p>
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		<title>By: kestner linares</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>kestner linares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey watsz upp well juzt wanted tu no about the ipod ....unm well can you licen tu music on the ipod touch trough the internet like flashplayer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey watsz upp well juzt wanted tu no about the ipod &#8230;.unm well can you licen tu music on the ipod touch trough the internet like flashplayer?</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally speaking, I am outraged that Apple is charging early buyers of the iPod Touch $20 for a system update that ought to be free.

While I understand Apple&#039;s decision to charge money for the new applications (especially because they might run afoul of the SOx Law) the new $20 &quot;application pack&quot; also includes a SYSTEM UPDATE in the form of the home page editing, web clips, and lyrics features. All of these are updates to the currently existing iPod Touch software and NOT new applications, which means that they ought to be free to all users of the iPod Touch.

Adding insult to injury these applications are all hidden in the 1.1.3 system update, a whopping 104.4mb file that all users must download if they want to fix bugs in the system. These applications can only be used when you pay Apple $20 to &quot;unlock&quot; them, but even if you decide not to buy them they stay on your iPod taking up precious space that could be used for songs, videos, or photos.

Apple is normally wonderful when it comes to providing system support and updates, but having them shaft early adopters and loyal fans like this is offensive and shows that Apple has absolutely no regard for the iPod Touch community.

You can leave Apple direct feedback here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html

You can also sign this petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/freeappi/petition.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally speaking, I am outraged that Apple is charging early buyers of the iPod Touch $20 for a system update that ought to be free.</p>
<p>While I understand Apple&#8217;s decision to charge money for the new applications (especially because they might run afoul of the SOx Law) the new $20 &#8220;application pack&#8221; also includes a SYSTEM UPDATE in the form of the home page editing, web clips, and lyrics features. All of these are updates to the currently existing iPod Touch software and NOT new applications, which means that they ought to be free to all users of the iPod Touch.</p>
<p>Adding insult to injury these applications are all hidden in the 1.1.3 system update, a whopping 104.4mb file that all users must download if they want to fix bugs in the system. These applications can only be used when you pay Apple $20 to &#8220;unlock&#8221; them, but even if you decide not to buy them they stay on your iPod taking up precious space that could be used for songs, videos, or photos.</p>
<p>Apple is normally wonderful when it comes to providing system support and updates, but having them shaft early adopters and loyal fans like this is offensive and shows that Apple has absolutely no regard for the iPod Touch community.</p>
<p>You can leave Apple direct feedback here:<br />
<a href="http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html</a></p>
<p>You can also sign this petition:<br />
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/freeappi/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/freeappi/petition.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, this is quite possibly the most well written and mature article that I have read about the ipod touch upgrades. Rather than simply starting a flame war like engadget or some of the other sites, you constructed a logical argument which wholly and accurately details both sides of the story. Great article and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, this is quite possibly the most well written and mature article that I have read about the ipod touch upgrades. Rather than simply starting a flame war like engadget or some of the other sites, you constructed a logical argument which wholly and accurately details both sides of the story. Great article and keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. The new upgrade is awesome and worth every penny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. The new upgrade is awesome and worth every penny!</p>
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		<title>By: Samy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my ipod touch for a broadband plan spreading over a period of 24 months, so Apple can allow ipod touch users like me to upgrade for free! (similar to iphone / apple tv users)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my ipod touch for a broadband plan spreading over a period of 24 months, so Apple can allow ipod touch users like me to upgrade for free! (similar to iphone / apple tv users)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I&#039;m disappointed in, is that Apple didn&#039;t get the hint entirely by making the iPod Touch more of a PDA. It&#039;s what everyone is truly trying to do...especially the hackers and those who want it unlocked. They want games, music, data, pictures, documents, email etc and want to get them from 3rd parties. They dont want 5 apps that Apple deems good enough for their bricks! That is called a PDA (personal digital assistant) Perhaps Apple will get the hint before we all end up online at eBay to buy up those Palm Lifedrives that are still floating around!

As for the cost, I have no problem with it at all. The reason is, when the iPod Touch and iPhone came out, you could easily read the box and figure out which item was best suited for you. Getting upGRADES for free has never been a policy of ANY company that I know of. UpDATES on the other hand are a completely different situation. Be careful what you consider an upGRADE versus an upDATE. Buying Quicktime Pro 6.0 and then upGRADING it to 7.0, a completely different version is called upGRADING! This costs you money. Also if you buy a computer with standard edition software such as Microsoft Office and then you realize later you wanted the full Professional version, guess what? You&#039;re gonna pay for it

Remember, upDATING is only adding new features to current software through a service pack like Quicktime Pro 7.0 to 7.04 and is FREE.
UpGRADING is changing the entire version of a software such as Quicktime Pro 6.0 to 7.0 and this is NEVER free...neither is getting additional apps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I&#8217;m disappointed in, is that Apple didn&#8217;t get the hint entirely by making the iPod Touch more of a PDA. It&#8217;s what everyone is truly trying to do&#8230;especially the hackers and those who want it unlocked. They want games, music, data, pictures, documents, email etc and want to get them from 3rd parties. They dont want 5 apps that Apple deems good enough for their bricks! That is called a PDA (personal digital assistant) Perhaps Apple will get the hint before we all end up online at eBay to buy up those Palm Lifedrives that are still floating around!</p>
<p>As for the cost, I have no problem with it at all. The reason is, when the iPod Touch and iPhone came out, you could easily read the box and figure out which item was best suited for you. Getting upGRADES for free has never been a policy of ANY company that I know of. UpDATES on the other hand are a completely different situation. Be careful what you consider an upGRADE versus an upDATE. Buying Quicktime Pro 6.0 and then upGRADING it to 7.0, a completely different version is called upGRADING! This costs you money. Also if you buy a computer with standard edition software such as Microsoft Office and then you realize later you wanted the full Professional version, guess what? You&#8217;re gonna pay for it</p>
<p>Remember, upDATING is only adding new features to current software through a service pack like Quicktime Pro 7.0 to 7.04 and is FREE.<br />
UpGRADING is changing the entire version of a software such as Quicktime Pro 6.0 to 7.0 and this is NEVER free&#8230;neither is getting additional apps!</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand, as a business person, that if you give your product away for free it will have no perceived value. I also understand that giving away the iPhone Apps might set a president that wouldn&#039;t be too pleasing for 3rd Party Developers who will want to, understandably, charge for their Apps.

As a user I am disappointed I had to pay $20 for the updates. I did it and I am fine with it, but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Of course I bought the Touch thinking it would be an ipod/pda (or whatever you want to call that line of functionality). So my expectations where wrong. I think sometimes in business like it or not you have to play to your customers expectations. I look to the iPhone refund as an example.

Anyway that being said I paid the $20 I am happy with the applications and I am ready for more 3rd party apps, but if Apple decides to give me $20 credit I will take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand, as a business person, that if you give your product away for free it will have no perceived value. I also understand that giving away the iPhone Apps might set a president that wouldn&#8217;t be too pleasing for 3rd Party Developers who will want to, understandably, charge for their Apps.</p>
<p>As a user I am disappointed I had to pay $20 for the updates. I did it and I am fine with it, but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Of course I bought the Touch thinking it would be an ipod/pda (or whatever you want to call that line of functionality). So my expectations where wrong. I think sometimes in business like it or not you have to play to your customers expectations. I look to the iPhone refund as an example.</p>
<p>Anyway that being said I paid the $20 I am happy with the applications and I am ready for more 3rd party apps, but if Apple decides to give me $20 credit I will take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Davdi</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Davdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo,

The difference is that the add event was an added feature in a pre-existing application. This is adding 5 completely new (to the iPod) applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo,</p>
<p>The difference is that the add event was an added feature in a pre-existing application. This is adding 5 completely new (to the iPod) applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://michaelmistretta.com/2008/why-apple-charged-for-the-ipod-touch-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple added the calendar add event feature for iPod touches, in a free software upgrade... I&#039;m not sure I understand why they have to charge for new features...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple added the calendar add event feature for iPod touches, in a free software upgrade&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure I understand why they have to charge for new features&#8230;</p>
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